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Never Stop Learning | Unsolved Truths Podcast × Ossama Jabri | Episode 13




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Speaker 1

Maybe. Maybe my people, the people listening to us, maybe might not like it. What we have gained from the American films. What have you can tell me something. Bad words. They start using our kids. They start using it. What they have done. We have learned that the hero will not die. What we have learned, what things that we can carry out with us.


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Speaker 1

And I say that I have learned this one.


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Speaker 2

By the way, if you ever notice all these movies never reward hard work. The person works hard, always fails, is the one who is destined to win. That's the person always ends up winning the hero's journey.


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Speaker 1

While I was working an office boy, I did not stop from learning. I opened the books. At that time, there were books. There were no computers. And I started learning about regulation, about how the issued indicates how the issued the kids, how they calculated. How do how do how do all these things. And I started practicing. It was in English.


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Speaker 1

And that time, English, in spite of my school, was the American mission. And the English was perfect. But, you know, each industry has their own terminology and therefore you have to learn and start learning. I kept quiet and then nobody knew about it. Suddenly there was an incident that the customer was not wrapped heavily happy with the calculation made by someone staff.


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Speaker 1

So I went to the staff and look, if you do it this way, it might might make it cheaper.


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Speaker 2

Hmm.


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Speaker 1

And he was laughing at me. Who took it seriously? The manager. And you ask him to do it? Let's do it. Let's hear from him. So then they found that I am right. An office boy knows what's going on. Then he picked me up, put me on the counter as a trainee. And from there I carried on. I still going in the summer and in the winter studying.


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Speaker 1

And I have graduated. I'm holding a bachelor degree in management and marketing. But it did not stop me till now from learning. Then I move to another company. I work for the airline. I work for the Cathay Pacific Airways and in a managerial level, I started with the executive.


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Speaker 2

And how did you get into that airline business? I just.


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Speaker 1

Applied.


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Speaker 2

I just applied.


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Speaker 1

And they answered. I applied for the band. I applied for the. I applied in particular for companies. They deal with the service industry.


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Speaker 2

Of course, because you really had experience.


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Speaker 1

And I love it. I love the service. I love I love the customer service. It's part of my body. Then I applied and then I received. My lucky is that I received from an international company and they recruited me and I traveled to Saudi Arabia and Bahrain and here and there. And I started attending many courses and skills here.


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Speaker 1

When I started attending many courses in the school, I found that the potential I mean, if you want to success, you have to build skills. Of course, you should not rely on books or shouldn't be rely on regulation. You should. The most important thing is if you want to be a customer experience, customer, customer service or even a successful person, you have to build the skills.


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Speaker 1

Of course. And then I started learning the skills. I started from the courses. We had many courses leadership, communication, team management, time management, solving problems, decision making, interpersonal skills. Now, I conducted the courses, I attended the courses, I had the menu in these manuals. I threw it. In fact, I shelf it all the manuals. And this is my recommendation for management.


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Speaker 1

Whenever you attend the course, put it on a shelf. What do you have to do? And this is what I did. And Hamdallah, thanks for it's working fine. And I told my kids to do it and I telling all brother to do it. Don't implement what you learn. Take one point, one tip. One thing that you have learned from this course implemented.


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Speaker 2

So how did you find these skill places? First of all, I think we're getting off track. What you you you applied for this for the for the airline. They sent you all around the world. And you how did you find these training programs and.


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Speaker 1

The companies, they train.


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Speaker 2

You, they offered it offered.


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Speaker 1

It.


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Speaker 2

By the way, not everyone takes on these offers. There's a lot of employees.


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Speaker 1

That the program, the airlines in general or even in the companies they train. The stuff you asked me a very interesting question. Why did you join Toastmaster?


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Speaker 2

Hmm? I don't even know what Toastmasters, by the way, I only first time saw it on LinkedIn as I was going through your profile because the build up question.


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Speaker 1

So this muscle is an international international club I've heard is formed in the United States by Dr. Ross Muslim basic concept of this toastmaster clubs is to build the competence in communication. Okay, and leadership skills. Okay. It means that what you learned then is to build the confidence is to become in confidence, in yourself, in communication, especially the public speaking in many cases and many times you were asked to speak not in front of hundreds of audience in front of somebody manager also means that you have to prepare yourself for this one.


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Speaker 1

You have to build a confidence that I can communicate, I can post my message, I can tell them what I want, or I can tell them what they want to hear. So this one is very important, by the way, as I said before, communication are two ways. One, going, one, giving the confirmation that this is what he's.


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Speaker 2

Saying.


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Speaker 1

Or nor than me about something else. Toastmaster is building a very important things. Number one, building the communication skills or confident than yourself. Many people, they are afraid of not talking to anybody. This can they shake when they talk to somebody, even one. I'm not talking about myself talking to 1500 people, standing on the stage. It's not scary.


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Speaker 1

It's terrifying.


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Speaker 2

By the way, I'm the reason I'm looking you like this is because it recollects a lot of what I've listened and learned. There's there's a I was reading a book about an FBI hostage negotiator, and he talks about his ways of communicating in order to de-escalate the situation. And one of the things he talks about is actually your voice.


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Speaker 2

And so as you were saying, you know.


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Speaker 1

Convert, is this something coming to say?


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Speaker 2

Absolutely. And it boggles my mind and how much of what you were saying in in your LinkedIn posts was almost identical to a book that you could go and buy for for 30.


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Speaker 1

$60 helping that FBI. Please don't. So in the leadership, they told you how even how to use the second style of the communication, the language developers, the the body language the body language, the the vocal varieties, the eye contact. Eye contact is very important in negotiation. The body language, body language send messages. So it's one of the style body language.


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Speaker 1

Either you sit like this or you sit like this, or is that like this one book converting eye contact your facial expression smiling means that you're interested or happy about what moving eyes around means that you are not interested. So leave for it gives you signals. Therefore, we learn that from the courses we attended, we learned from practicing.


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Speaker 1

Therefore I found it that and toastmaster it's not extinct that I don't want it because I learn it. But for the toastmaster, they teach you it's. It's a program.


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Speaker 2

Hmm. And how do you find it? First of all.


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Speaker 1

Was toastmaster. Yeah, it was beautiful.


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Speaker 2

But how did you find it? I told you about it.


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Speaker 1

Bye bye. Bye. I heard it in the. In the social media.


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Speaker 2

Oh, okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay.


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Speaker 1

Okay. As I told you, I mean, nothing stopping me from learning till noted this moment. So I was going around to finding out what are things that I can do. And I found suddenly it was massive. And here the social, the digital marketing role is to bring your page to the top. And it kept us Amazon. What is this muscle I see.


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Speaker 2

Oh yeah.


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Speaker 1

What is this source? Must I click on it and it start reading. Oh, that's interesting. Let me go. Then I pick up on 1:00 in Bahrain and I went, I visited them free of charge three times. They allow you. I was looking at, um.


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Speaker 2

There's a club here in Bahrain.


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Speaker 1

66 clubs.


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Speaker 2

Okay.


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Speaker 1

Six clubs. I am a member of two clubs. Okay.


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Speaker 2

The 69 club is not available. These clubs, they so, so, so then let's, let's be straight here and we can cut this out if you don't feel comfortable answering it because this is a difficult question, what would I hope to get some form of answer for you? There's a lot of businesses here in Bahrain. There's a lot of people I meet here in Bahrain who who fail to succeed, not because that they don't work hard enough, not because their idea is bad, not because the market is too competitive, but because they lack one thing.


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Speaker 2

Wafa and this is sadly true more here in Bahrain than in Saudi Arabia. And with Mbes, this stuff has been cleaned up and that's why I warned you said we can cut the sex it out.


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Speaker 1

No, no, no, that's okay. Well, I don't mention the names. No, no, you have a right. It's not. The USA is not only here, it's anywhere in the world, even in countries that they are well known of high democracy. I mean, one of the things that I train my my student, I show them a mountain and the flag and the flag is not on the top of the mountain.


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Speaker 1

Flag is on the same at the bottom of the land of the mountain. And the person was standing, looking at the flag. I said, What do you see in this flag failure?


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Speaker 2

No, no training said, Why so?


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Speaker 1

Because the flag should be on the top. We said, Who said that? No, the flag is where you want to go. Then when you reach the flag, it's like a golf. You hit the ball to the first hole. You don't hit it on the 18th hole. Then you say, a flag is here, work in this one, which means that you are working in the right direction.


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Speaker 1

Then move the flag, put it somewhere else. Now your flag is not is learning English. No. The second type of the flag is learning French. But maybe when you reach and learning English, do you find that? No. The Spanish language is more popular and you already are. You are able to learn.


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Speaker 2

Your dynamic and you can change.


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Speaker 1

The import of the Spanish language. And I keep telling my my team, who wants the second language other than English? Guess what? Which language?


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Speaker 2

I would say Cantonese.


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Speaker 1

Not Cantonese, not Chinese.


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Speaker 2

Chinese, but Chinese is in the language, by the way.


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Speaker 1

It's a language.


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Speaker 2

Know. What is it? I mean there's there is no language called Chinese. No, no, it's called the Cantonese.


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Speaker 1

It's called the non. It is there is often.


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Speaker 2

Mandarin there.


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Speaker 1

Remembering Cantonese but they have an official language when they use it in the government.


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Speaker 2

Yeah.


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Speaker 1

Even if it's not the words by the way, it's character.


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Speaker 2

Yeah. It's drawings, it's drawing.


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Speaker 1

Exactly. Yeah. I was that in China. I know what's going on, but what I'm trying to say that if you want to learn that language, the future language, learn Chinese. By the way, Mandarin is not popular. Mandarin. Cantonese is not popular because it's in the South, it's Hong Kong and it's also Mandarin. Mandarin, then that is not, not, not of the china.


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Speaker 1

They use it more. And sometimes if you speak Mandarin, it does not mean that you can speak Cantonese.


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Speaker 2

Mm.


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Speaker 1

Totally different dialect, different accent. But they have.


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Speaker 2

It's not like Hindi nor do.


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Speaker 1

They have the official language. It's like Arabic. Now if you go to Mecca, to Morocco, it's totally different than Egypt.


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Speaker 2

Yeah, of course.


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Speaker 1

But you have the Arabic dialect. It depends. It depends. I'm not talking about Chinese.


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Speaker 2

But it's not like Saudi. It's not so it's not like. It's not like Arab, Arabic and Farsi.


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Speaker 1

Let alone.


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Speaker 2

Because.


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Speaker 1

No, because all of them. They speak Arabic language. The official one.


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Speaker 2

Mm.


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Speaker 1

No. And therefore same like in China, many Persian languages. One of the languages you should learn beautiful or Indian Urdu. So it's up to you. But I always recommend my friends, my colleagues go for Chinese, for the kids because this is a future language for others. They have 1 billion. I don't know.


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Speaker 2

What is older, by the way, Farsi or Arabic. I think force is older.


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Speaker 1

I do not have an answer for this one to speak frankly. I'm not really.


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Speaker 2

Expert. You're not a historian either.


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Speaker 1

But I know that Arabic is very old language. Now, not older than maybe Persian, short in the short in, but local and not, say, the embassy. How old somebody? Yeah. Well, I think your Persian is older because I don't want to give any.


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Speaker 2

No, no, no. Because I think.


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Speaker 1

I'm not really.


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Speaker 2

Expert. I think a l l l Arabic and l l Hegel, uh, Jews, Eliyahu Deen. They both come from the same brute language.


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Speaker 1

But the idea of them and enjoy them languages, like I say, the Messiah and somebody somebody is somebody who is still existing. By the way, this language would assure you this language is still existing in Syria. And and near Damascus. There is a village called.


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Speaker 2

Can you imagine that? The idea of.


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Speaker 1

Still using this language.


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Speaker 2

Of using a language that's over 5000 years old, and how would you even you'd have to invent new words.


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Speaker 1

For on the day of the Egyptian old days. Now they're using it. They know how to speak now. Yeah, they revive it. But I'm proud that we have a language, a very strong language. I'm proud of it. Arabic language is one.


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Speaker 2

But and we used to have a lot of tradition. We used to we used to make our own words in Arabic. You know, you instead of saying motorcycle, we used to say Nigeria, you know, but that's all good.


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Speaker 1

But if all of them say the Raja, they would understand either you are in Oman or here in Kuwait or Iraq. This is the same language for all, which is I'm really proud and really sorry that we are not using it.


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Speaker 2

Do you not think it's strange, right? I mean, the reason we have to speak English is because there's 2 billion people in the world who speak English. So we're stuck with numbers here. But don't you feel like that that that Arabic culture and language is being dwindled every year almost?


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Speaker 1

Yes. Yes. Not because of anything. Because of us.


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Speaker 2

I think it's because of social media.


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Speaker 1

Because of us. Because of us. I feel personally that this should come from the family from the beginning.


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Speaker 2

But don't you think that do you not think that society of Bahrain, whatever, should get smart guys involved and make a Twitter like Twitter copy.


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Speaker 1

But they should have.


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Speaker 2

For Arabic.


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Speaker 1

Users. So you can use Twitter in Arabic language, but it's not Arabic.


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Speaker 2

Exactly. Own. Yes.


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Speaker 1

I wish I wish we have a couple of programs, a couple of applications in Arabic. Totally. But the basic is the language we are using. It is English. Yes, you have. Right, exactly.


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Speaker 2

You know, that's the shame of it.


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Speaker 1

It is. It is especially that we have a community we have ability to do with this one. But as you said, the social media, the the language, whenever you go travel, they use the English language. Even if you are in the French territories, the English is very popular.


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Speaker 2

Bad in Islam. That's also a problem because an embassy to every day English movies must Arabic subtitles.


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Speaker 1

That's subtitles. This is really hurting us. But still, because they are using their own languages like American, their own accent, their own dialog, their own jargons. I recommend if you want to learn English, you go to the BBC News or and CNN as in news, you don't have subtitles and they are using unofficial language. Now the BBC news is better.


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Speaker 1

It's more comfortable for me because it's more English language, but both of them are. Push the kids to listen. Put them all, they let them listen. There is no subtitles. There are no ads to help them to understand they are only between them. And they're using a professional language because it's it's one. It's true. It's true that for 2 hours every day, kids come and listen to and give me the report what they are saying there.


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Speaker 1

They will listen. They will learn a lot of things. They will learn the listening skills through. They will understand what's going on and they will start catching. If you don't understand this word next time, they will understand, oh, he took it. He the he mentioned it. And this occasion means that.


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Speaker 2

This 30 something something and.


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Speaker 1

Pushed him to search here in our hour that we rely on as you said the subtitle we rely on translation. No.


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Speaker 2

It's wrong but it's it's such a shame I think is that we're throwing away our beautiful culture and we're throwing away our beautiful language and we're getting Westernized. I mean, how many look but what we're dressed best heavy with we're not wearing Thorburn I God we started they were coming with jeans and me with a shorts.


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Speaker 1

I love it. I by the way, I'm wearing it when I go to the new government in Saudi Arabia. It's a particular of tells me a lot in spite of the color.


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Speaker 2

So I know, I know, I know.


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Speaker 1

I know.


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Speaker 2

That tells me I have to go to the to the embassy because we're thinking of doing a show as well. Mal Um, I, I said a so I was thinking to myself, should I go, you know, the suit or should I show up with a veil? Because I was thinking it was so for the English audience, it probably makes more sense wearing a suit.


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Speaker 1

Even our ambassadors, for instance, I feel personally that if you want to send Ambassador to outside, he should be expert in Arabic language. Yes, official Arabic, not the accent. As a golfer, as a Syrian or absolutely he should be exposed to an Arabic language.


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Speaker 2

It's called the Koran. Arabic.


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Speaker 1

Arabic, exactly. For us. And he should not be an ambassador unless he pass.


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Speaker 2

I agree.


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Speaker 1

In addition to politics, in addition to the science, all but this one should be because this one is you represent yourself.


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Speaker 2

But don't you feel like the the the ambassadors should be wearing especially of going out doing his duties wherever, China, America, wherever? Should he not go with our traditional clothing? My ultra god.


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Speaker 1

Look, the silly.


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Speaker 2

Book is when you look at the Indian ambassador, they go with their sari or whatever the what's the male version called? I forgot the name of it. Women wear the saris, then. You guys. No idea.


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Speaker 1

This one, the tall one with the with the them.


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Speaker 2

Yeah. I see a lot of investors going out with the coats and stuff like that.


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Speaker 1

I don't mind. I mean in spite and in fact I love it to present your country is way, but not necessarily. No, no. It's you know who will present your country. It's not your dress. True? Yes. Your dress will tell you from where are you? I'm from Bahrain, but it's you when when you deal with the people, when you go outside your present yourself and you represent your country.


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Speaker 2

But Salma, this is the thing I'm worried about is because now, you know, there's a new movie coming out for children. Um, Buzz Lightyear, you know, like Toy Story. And it has, you know, homosexuality, gay stuff in it. And they are now we have people in Bahrain and Saudia who are upset saying, oh, you shouldn't ban it was a killer, a good father, haggard father.


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Speaker 2

This is not right. You know what I mean? And this is this is crazy to me. In in in that people have become so westernized that they think it's okay to make movies with this kind of stuff for children.


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Speaker 1

Um, it's a good question. I know it's difficult for me. It's, it's against my, my beliefs.


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Speaker 2

I'm, I.


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Speaker 1

Have a sickness, therefore, and we are not going to change my my belief because of you. You like it? No, it's like it's my belief. I'm not saying that we should treat them in a very bad way. They are human, but it's against my belief. I don't accept it.


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Speaker 2

But don't you think it's terrible that they make movies for this stuff? It is children.


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Speaker 1

It is. And then it is.


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Speaker 2

You have people here in Bahrain City.


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Speaker 1

It is.


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Speaker 2

That fight and say, no, we should show the.


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Speaker 1

Situation, not look at is build awareness, build awareness, educate them. Our problem is education, not educate them. Tell them that this is where they are. Maybe don't have an answer for this or you have an answer. Be realistic with them. Talk. This is what we want in our society. Build awareness, but don't really expose them.


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Speaker 2

Mark.


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Speaker 1

Mark. Now Disneyland is going to Disney movie. They're going to do create some of the I don't like it and the problem is that they cannot control it.


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Speaker 2

But it's exactly I think that's.


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Speaker 1

Against and therefore build awareness.


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Speaker 2

I think absolutely. I think there needs to you know, that I think this is the problem why we need to start making our own movies. We need to start making our own media in the Gulf. You know, we cannot be reliant on just getting propaganda from America.


00;20;52;17 - 00;21;07;27

Speaker 1

We have to live on our own. We don't know we should. We have to live on our own. We have because with our television, we are not our culture. And I respect all the reason, but it's nothing. And even the Christians and Jews are against this one, by the way, all of us, because it's not the nature.


00;21;07;28 - 00;21;22;26

Speaker 2

But also look at how we are portrayed in Western media. Could Lopez a Lopez a terrorist? Well, you don't see an Arab any on a movie as the good guy. You know, show.


00;21;22;26 - 00;21;47;05

Speaker 1

Me an Arab people. Not the good. Who are they? They tell us he is Arabic. Well, what is he? Sure. Yeah, it's the politics. I don't want to enter this one. So it's. It is. It is something to do with us. It's our fault. Oh, is it? Anyway, first of all, before we have a see that if before you opened the door to receive a guest, clean your house.


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Speaker 2

Yeah, I agree with that.


00;21;50;19 - 00;22;09;01

Speaker 1

And before you kiss somebody, clean your face my cup. Therefore, we have to start from our home. We have to build the culture. Now, let me tell you something. You go in the market and you'll find, as you see people, father or parents talking to their kids, how they talk to them, in which language.


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Speaker 2

Most of the.


00;22;11;08 - 00;22;12;21

Speaker 1

Time talk are about.


00;22;12;26 - 00;22;15;11

Speaker 2

Most of the time I see them, a lot of them speaking English.


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Speaker 1

Now, why? Why? If he speaks English with his, it will be something is very special for me. Know our language is Arabic. I don't mind to learn. In fact, it's not mine. Say no. As I said, he push us to learn. To learn even the language of other, other, other people. We should know what's going on. We are before 1500 years.


00;22;40;00 - 00;22;44;00

Speaker 1

He's learning us to learn. Go outside to learn then that doesn't.


00;22;44;00 - 00;22;45;00

Speaker 2

Mean you're always.


00;22;45;00 - 00;22;55;12

Speaker 1

Sent happen to send to learn Persian. So whenever he receive anything, somebody will translate to him, he or anywhere. There were people learning minister.


00;22;55;26 - 00;22;56;08

Speaker 2

But you.


00;22;56;08 - 00;23;17;06

Speaker 1

Know so it means that we have to learn. We don't. But it does not mean that we forget about the Arabic language. Why you are talking to him in English. What do you what are you trying to prove? You're trying to prove that he's in a private school or he's a new generation? No, I agree that I'm, by the way, against translating any books from Arabic to English or English.


00;23;17;13 - 00;23;20;09

Speaker 1

It because when you translate any book in management.


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Speaker 2

You lose.


00;23;20;26 - 00;23;21;20

Speaker 1

It. You lose.


00;23;21;20 - 00;23;22;19

Speaker 2

It. I agree with you.


00;23;22;19 - 00;23;35;08

Speaker 1

But it does not mean that you learn English and you learn what's going on there and you come up with your own books, with the own what you call it, sort of, and you translate the English.


00;23;35;17 - 00;23;36;22

Speaker 2

Let them look up, you know.


00;23;37;18 - 00;24;04;07

Speaker 1

My thing. Therefore I'm against. I need books in Arabic. Translated from English. No, but I'm I like to read books written by Arabic people. But I need to I need to need to read books written in English. And I understand them, therefore learn English, but don't lose your language. Our language is very weak. Till now, I'm not really happy with the all movies around speaking the common the common language.


00;24;04;07 - 00;24;08;18

Speaker 1

What is the problem if you use our Arabic language, the official one, what's the problem?


00;24;09;20 - 00;24;26;21

Speaker 2

This is something I also don't understand how to total Islam. Even if you take the movies from America, fine is the is is is are we? We have so little money that we can't get two, three, five, ten people together to do double the voice in Arabic and put it on cinema.


00;24;26;21 - 00;24;48;04

Speaker 1

Maybe, maybe my people, the people listening to us, they might not like it. What we have gained from the American films, what have you can give me something bad words. They start using our kids, they start using it. What we have done, we have learned that the hero will not die. What we have learned, what things that we can carry out with us.


00;24;48;12 - 00;24;50;26

Speaker 1

And I say that I have learned this one.


00;24;51;02 - 00;25;02;08

Speaker 2

By the way, if you ever notice all these movies never reward hard work. The person who works hard always fails is the one who's destined to win. That's the person always ends up winning the hero's journey.


00;25;02;08 - 00;25;07;12

Speaker 1

Once you once asked me, what is your favorite film? And guess which one? I like it. I love.


00;25;07;13 - 00;25;08;03

Speaker 2

It. Godfather.


00;25;08;10 - 00;25;18;10

Speaker 1

No, the best film I have ever seen and I always love to see it again and again. Is The Last Samurai okay?


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Speaker 2

Oh, okay.


00;25;19;29 - 00;25;23;17

Speaker 1

With Tom Hanks. Tom? Tom Cruise.


00;25;23;27 - 00;25;25;20

Speaker 2

Yeah. Tom Cruise is in it, right? Yeah.


00;25;25;28 - 00;25;27;20

Speaker 1

Not because of the Tom Cruise. I love this one.


00;25;28;27 - 00;25;31;00

Speaker 2

He found out he's gay and you're like, Oh, let me sing for you.


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Speaker 1

So I told myself, I don't want to come because the film showed you the the style of the Japanese.


00;25;41;29 - 00;25;43;02

Speaker 2

During the 1800.


00;25;43;13 - 00;26;11;10

Speaker 1

How they cared about each other, the community. They are not all warriors, but the warrior is a warrior. And he is ready to sacrifice his life for his village. The farmer is a farmer and he's a professional in this one, and he's a proud and his kids are learning from him. They the disciplined the way they listen to the leader and he cares about them the way they raise their their kids, the respect and the way they raise their kids of fighting.


00;26;11;14 - 00;26;19;20

Speaker 1

Start learning from the beginning how to fight with a sword. It's a community that we love to have it. We love to care about the kids.


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Speaker 2

So you don't have communities anymore. You know.


00;26;21;17 - 00;26;22;28

Speaker 1

That's old, but this is what we need.


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Speaker 2

I agree.


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